tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post1507484478642669489..comments2024-03-17T16:21:14.907-05:00Comments on Stop Baptist Predators: Oh what tangled webs...Christa Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04560409585720043015noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-29769596413660803052009-07-08T11:38:27.861-05:002009-07-08T11:38:27.861-05:00There are other kinds of abuse within the SBC that...There are other kinds of abuse within the SBC that parallel the sexual abuse. When I was 17, our youth pastor took our youth group on a retreat and told us that Jesus was coming back within a year, and that we all needed to immediately give up all of our worldly goals. I was told that my desire to be a mother first was a sin, and that it was rooted somehow in sexual sin, even though I was a virgin and a devout Christian. The person who told me that is now pastor of a major SBC church in Texas. <br /><br />A generation earlier, my father, who was an underweight boy, had been run through a belt-line at a well-known Baptist youth retreat campground. <br /><br />I think the larger sexual abuse issue is partly rooted in generations of abuse perpetrated upon Southern Baptists by their elders, due to the authoritarian, insular culture. Baptists are fond of pointing to cult-like elements of other faiths, but would deny the same about their own.<br /><br />Watch out for the newest SBC trend: past sex abusers are now being granted "special counseling ministries" upon professed repentance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-72652561522379402162008-02-11T12:01:00.000-06:002008-02-11T12:01:00.000-06:00From the Unknown Missionary:When my 4 year old was...From the Unknown Missionary:<BR/><BR/>When my 4 year old was in Sunday School at FBC Oviedo (long before Gilmore but during Mercer), he came into my office and proclaimed, "Daddy, I am glad there is a hell." I was a little concerned about this and asked further. He said, "I am afraid of Goliath and Goliath is in hell. If he is there and I ain't going then I don't have to be afraid."<BR/><BR/>As a good baptist, I believe that there is a heaven to gain and a hell to shun. Jesus said it would be better to have a large stone about your neck and be cast in the sea than to offend one of His little ones. Surely, many have been offended. I would not want to be guilty before God of having allowed a pervert to run rampant in the church where I am shepherd, with my knowledge and consent, and destroyed the spiritual lives of so many. These men need to answer here and now. But they will answer again, later, as well.<BR/><BR/>Survivors, be comforted to know that the Goliaths of your life are in hell.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-66321553235489955042008-01-08T16:21:00.000-06:002008-01-08T16:21:00.000-06:00Anonymous 1 and 2: Thanks for your pieces of infor...Anonymous 1 and 2: Thanks for your pieces of information. I thought it likely that Bobby Welch would know the ministerial staff at Dwayne Mercer's church, and you've confirmed that. But I had no clue that Mercer was also connected to Charles Stanley at FBC-Atlanta. The web just gets thicker and thicker..."too many guys who have covered up too much."Christa Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04560409585720043015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-37672618601017626502008-01-08T14:42:00.000-06:002008-01-08T14:42:00.000-06:00Dwayne Mercer's church of record at one time was ...Dwayne Mercer's church of record at one time was FBC Atlanta, where Charles Stanley pastors. Dee Miller's statement may be more true than anyone realizes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-28569231859658305592008-01-08T14:22:00.000-06:002008-01-08T14:22:00.000-06:00This is like a nightmare maze of ministers. There...This is like a nightmare maze of ministers. There are so many prominent SBC ministers involved and not one did anything to help but they did contribute in hiding the truth or not caring. I can assure you that Bobby Welsh does know Dwayne Mercer and his staff well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-17219131609621250522008-01-05T19:51:00.000-06:002008-01-05T19:51:00.000-06:00Both your posts sound like we grew up in the same ...Both your posts sound like we grew up in the same church and family!<BR/>and Phyliss...they are screwed up...we are very normal.<BR/><BR/>When you go thru the life experiences we have...it is normal to have a few issues!!gmommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11713588262748876624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-70305514761308231572008-01-05T16:36:00.000-06:002008-01-05T16:36:00.000-06:00Reminds me of that old joke... Why are Southern Ba...Reminds me of that old joke... Why are Southern Baptists so afraid of S-E-X? Because it might lead to dancing!<BR/><BR/>Along with several other girls in the church, I was on my school's drill team – the Lionettes. Frequently, the Sunday evening sermon would have the pastor bellowing about the evils of dancing while he glared at us sitting in the back corner of the sanctuary. My prayer partner was also on the drill team, and we used to pray about it together, but somehow, despite all the pastor's bellowing, God never told us to get off the drill team. But after my known perpetrator left and moved on to a bigger church at a higher salary, and after the senior pastor told me I should rededicate my life to Christ, I quit the drill team. I guess I thought that was part of the cause of it all. How crazy was that?!Christa Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04560409585720043015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-21954675829069597662008-01-05T15:33:00.000-06:002008-01-05T15:33:00.000-06:00gmommy,I love what you said, "As long as the good ...gmommy,<BR/><BR/>I love what you said, "As long as the good ol boy perverts don't drink or have a private prayer language, the SBC leadership will make sure they stay employed in positions of trust so they can continue their abuse!" Oh my gosh! Truer words were never spoken. And don't forget -- don't dance!! That was one of the unwritten RULES in SBC churches in OK when I was growing up. We would go to Falls Creek church camp every summer and "confess" our sins. Then we would dance again. Then we would confess again. I remember really thinking that was a SIN!<BR/><BR/>What is crazy -- my parents (mainly my mother) preached the evils of drinking and the sin of premarital sex all the while they were having sex with me themselves. And I wonder why I am screwed up and have CHURCH issues! Go figure!<BR/><BR/>PhyllisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-24929714515526428872008-01-05T13:53:00.000-06:002008-01-05T13:53:00.000-06:00Well-said gmommy. They seem to think it's about S-...Well-said gmommy. They seem to think it's about S-E-X and blame the innocent for their own abuse. (How many times have we heard that stupid "two to tango" line?) But of course, thinking clergy sex abuse is about S-E-X is like thinking the Bataan Death March was about exercise.Christa Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04560409585720043015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-58183301311486900702008-01-05T12:11:00.000-06:002008-01-05T12:11:00.000-06:00The article by Dee Miller is very disturbing. No w...The article by Dee Miller is very disturbing. No wonder Steve Gaines was so arrogant about keeping a confessed sexual molestor on staff at Belleve Baptist. <BR/>This is more proof that sexual abuse by Baptist ministers is NOT unchartered territory as the Sr Pastor claimed before the church.<BR/><BR/>Of course BBC labeled the abuse "sexual activity" and an "incident"....the leaders of the SBC think that the innocent, vulnerable, and the wounded have some responsibility in their own abuse by these Baptist ministers! Or at least that's their lame excuse. <BR/><BR/>Of course the SBC ministers hate the blogs and the internet!!! Getting harder to keep their dirty little secrets!<BR/><BR/>As long as the good ol boy perverts don't drink or have a private prayer language, the SBC leadership will make sure they stay employed in positions of trust so they can continue their abuse!<BR/><BR/>The confessed sexual predator, Paul Williams, has been seen on the ball field when children are playing at a Baptist church right outside Memphis.<BR/>If he becomes a minister there, I will do all I can to warn the members. No chance that the ministers in this area will care.gmommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11713588262748876624noreply@blogger.com