tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post2685264161984830545..comments2024-03-17T16:21:14.907-05:00Comments on Stop Baptist Predators: Keeping Faith with the "Baptist Faith"Christa Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04560409585720043015noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-31946564754620816782010-03-21T11:48:14.730-05:002010-03-21T11:48:14.730-05:00And, in all likelihood, a whole lot of those men u...And, in all likelihood, a whole lot of those men under those KKK white hoods were Southern Baptist deacons and preachers -- leaders in their churches and communities.Christa Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04560409585720043015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-30963154332205060912010-03-21T11:20:16.650-05:002010-03-21T11:20:16.650-05:00And the KKK said they were Biblical too!! It'...And the KKK said they were Biblical too!! It's amazing how much scripture is twisted to meet someone's twisted agenda!!<br /><br />No one has THE answers about how the Bible is to be interpreted and understood. If a person doesn't live out and look like love, compassion,humility,kindness,<br />servanthood(Jesus)...if they don't truly care for orphans, widows(the wounded and the needy)in their own back yard...they are frauds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-76367383303185047652010-03-21T10:16:46.599-05:002010-03-21T10:16:46.599-05:00"One issue of supreme importance in SBC life ..."One issue of supreme importance in SBC life is the perpetuation of male dominance."<br /><br />It's because so many Southern Baptist men are so insecure in their manhood. And their excuse for all their evil and oppression? "It's biblical." What cowardly nonsense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-89533228275482203632010-03-20T17:42:15.444-05:002010-03-20T17:42:15.444-05:00"...the preface to the 2000 version refers to...<i>"...the preface to the 2000 version refers to it as an 'instrument of doctrinal accountability'."</i><br /><br />Wow. I totally missed that part. (The preface to the BFM is <a href="http://sbc.net/bfm/bfmpreamble.asp" rel="nofollow">here</a>.) And not only does it refer to the BFM as an instrument of accountability, but it also states that the BFM is affirming "our accountability to each other." <br /><br /><b>So where's the accountability?</b><br /><br />And amazingly, <a href="http://www.stopbaptistpredators.org/scandals/bellevue" rel="nofollow">keep-it-quiet pastor Steve Gaines</a> was on that committee for the 2000 Baptist Faith and Message. Who's holding HIM accountable??? Last I saw, other SBC leaders were still holding Gaines up as an example of pastoral leadership at pastors' conferences.Christa Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04560409585720043015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-72212676394453653652010-03-20T16:32:57.387-05:002010-03-20T16:32:57.387-05:00One issue of supreme importance in SBC life is the...One issue of supreme importance in SBC life is the perpetuation of male dominance. Whether it is male clergy exercising dominance over women and children through criminal sexual acts, or denominational organizations exercising male dominance by keeping women out of the pulpits of SBC churches, it is fruit from the same diseased tree. If there were a rash of female SBC members charged with abusing children, the denominational leaders would be tripping over themselves to deal with the issue. Since that is not the case, each day is just another day in Baptistland.Jimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-53145114007277282432010-03-20T15:56:04.954-05:002010-03-20T15:56:04.954-05:00Christa,
I think this is an important point for yo...Christa,<br />I think this is an important point for you to keep raising as you deal with Baptist leaders and churches. The current climate in the SBC is such that many churches are afraid of being seen as out of line with the Baptist Faith and Message, especially since the preface to the 2000 version refers to it as an "instrument of doctrinal accountability".<br /><br />Continue to point out the phrase "We should work to provide for ... the abused" and that churches who do nothing about clergy abuse are in clear violation of the BFM. It's a concise and effective way to communicate the need and basis for change.Junksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14422651080120306816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-16980615416796732992010-03-20T15:55:10.945-05:002010-03-20T15:55:10.945-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Junksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14422651080120306816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-77808578444239570872010-03-20T12:58:29.020-05:002010-03-20T12:58:29.020-05:00It seems clear then that a denomination which is a...It seems clear then that a denomination which is as serious about the protection of children as it is about keeping women out of the pulpit <a href="http://www.baptistplanet.com/2010/03/disfellowship-churches-which-through.html" rel="nofollow">will disfellowship churches which through silence, omission or action contribute scandalously to the victimization of children and to the continued predatory careers of abusive clergy</a>.BaptistPlanethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17900327670598346695noreply@blogger.com