tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post4771334498922737184..comments2024-03-17T16:21:14.907-05:00Comments on Stop Baptist Predators: Credibly accusedChrista Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04560409585720043015noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-18697733358564188542008-07-17T22:36:00.000-05:002008-07-17T22:36:00.000-05:00gmommy said: "But only 2 years for rape??? If I hu...gmommy said: "But only 2 years for rape??? If I hurt an animal, I would get more jail time."<BR/><BR/>Actually, you could hurt a tree and get that much time. <A HREF="http://www.statesman.com/search/content/news/stories/local/07/17/0717wheeler.html" REL="nofollow">Today's news</A> in Austin: A developer has been indicted "on a charge of criminal mischief, accused of illegally cutting down a large cedar tree.... [He] faces up to two years in prison if convicted...."Christa Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04560409585720043015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-29443916648690436012008-07-16T21:11:00.000-05:002008-07-16T21:11:00.000-05:00It is a good thing that other faith groups did not...It is a good thing that other faith groups did not wait for the "moral beacon" to lead the way in doing something to stop and treat the problem of clergy sexual abuse. We would still be waiting.<BR/><BR/>KemAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-17285562840545090502008-07-16T10:57:00.000-05:002008-07-16T10:57:00.000-05:00Christa,Mabe the reason they did not mention that ...Christa,<BR/>Mabe the reason they did not mention that he was a minister was because they knew that that would not upset anyone but maybe being a coach would! The decline of the respect for hte ministry is unbelievable. Those who know the truth have lost respect and many of those who are ministers want to be "one of the boys" rather than people of God. <BR/>Our greatest hope is the ongoing effort to educate the masses with solutions and compassion for the victims.<BR/>John HarrisonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-23841591462954184502008-07-16T07:42:00.000-05:002008-07-16T07:42:00.000-05:00That's right, gmommy. Our society gives a lot of l...That's right, gmommy. Our society gives a lot of lip-service to how "precious" our children are, but in reality, children are often treated like 4th-class creatures. Lots and lots of people don't really treat this crime seriously - and that includes even lots of judges.<BR/><BR/>Something else I thought was interesting is that the most recent news article didn't even mention that he was a Southern Baptist minister. Instead, it reported him as a volunteer track coach. I've seen this before - where the news fails to mention that the perp was a Baptist minister. Can you imagine a priest who admits to raping a 14-yr old, and the news article doesn't even mention that he's a priest? But hey - this is the South - and Southern Baptists are dominant here.Christa Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04560409585720043015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-24572295426818685052008-07-16T00:35:00.000-05:002008-07-16T00:35:00.000-05:00But only 2 years for rape???? If I hurt an animal,...But only 2 years for rape???? <BR/>If I hurt an animal, I would get more jail time.<BR/><BR/> I click on one of your links describing the long term health issues linked to sexual abuse.<BR/>YEARS of pain, health, and emotional problems for victims....but this pervert gets 2 years.<BR/> 2 years in jail for raping a 14 year old girl. <BR/>How many victims did he leave behind at other churches he worked at?<BR/>How many victims will there be when he gets out in 2 years???<BR/><BR/>When he is extended cheap grace and forgiveness...who will be there for his victims?gmommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11713588262748876624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-49233285667913516132008-07-16T00:06:00.000-05:002008-07-16T00:06:00.000-05:00Yes, they had Byars on their registry even after i...Yes, they had Byars on their registry even after investigators said Byars had admitted to it and - get this - even after <A HREF="http://www.ethicsdaily.com/article_detail.cfm?AID=8716" REL="nofollow">EthicsDaily</A> publicly pointed out to them that Byars was on their registry despite the charges against him. That was in March 2007. And the SBC still did nothing. Byars was finally removed from the registry just a few days ago, after his presence on the registry was AGAIN reported - this time in the Tennessean.Christa Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04560409585720043015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-62369224789774480082008-07-15T23:18:00.000-05:002008-07-15T23:18:00.000-05:00They had this guy on their registry? Jerks!They had this guy on their registry? Jerks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-65825483550165059512008-07-15T22:58:00.000-05:002008-07-15T22:58:00.000-05:00Gmommy is talking about Tennessee Southern Baptist...Gmommy is talking about Tennessee Southern Baptist minister <A HREF="http://stopbaptistpredators.org/article07/timothy_byars.html" REL="nofollow">Timothy Byars</A> who has now <A HREF="http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/jul/15/state-briefs-july-15/" REL="nofollow">pled guilty</A> to rape of a 14-yr old. But even before he formally pled guilty, investigators said he had admitted the rape. Yet, SBC headquarters in Nashville <A HREF="http://stopbaptistpredators.blogspot.com/2008/06/child-molesters-on-sbcs-ministerial.html" REL="nofollow">kept Byars</A> on their ministerial registry for about 18 months after his admission. (Oops - I mean ministerial "directory". I got criticized a few days ago for calling it a "registry" instead of a "directory".... as if that makes a difference... !!! Pardon me if I just don't give a hoot whether SBC guys call it a registry or a directory. I think they're missing the point... duhhhhhhh)<BR/><BR/>I too WISH that I could put my head in the sand. Isn't it amazing how WE are the ones who are incapable of NOT seeing this stuff and feeling its horror, and yet SBC leaders - the guys who are supposed to be the shepherds - seem completely incapable of seeing it. Or if they do see, they just don't care.Christa Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04560409585720043015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-24931472095999182672008-07-15T18:34:00.000-05:002008-07-15T18:34:00.000-05:00I clicked on the website to see the latest sexual ...I clicked on the website to see the latest sexual predator news.<BR/> So this coach and youth minister rapes a 14 year old while his own 2 daughters are near by and he gets LESS than 2 years! <BR/>I WISH I could put my head in the sand.gmommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11713588262748876624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-15873423598467232152008-07-15T16:02:00.000-05:002008-07-15T16:02:00.000-05:00And the public is finding more and more about the ...And the public is finding more and more about the fact that Southern Baptists aren't doing much about clergy sexual abuse every time a high profile case makes the news.<BR/><BR/>The "moral beacon" keeps getting dimmer and dimmer, and the only ones who still have the illusion that Southern Baptist leadership is a moral beacon is the leaders themselves. I think that part of the reason why they do not act is they do not want to face the ugliness that is there.<BR/><BR/>Can you say "Head in the sand?!"Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14764962887542099106noreply@blogger.com