tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post61405023892230587..comments2024-03-17T16:21:14.907-05:00Comments on Stop Baptist Predators: What's wrong with this picture?Christa Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04560409585720043015noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-66334694634040802942009-10-20T10:21:25.930-05:002009-10-20T10:21:25.930-05:00My concern is in the ministry the church leaders, ...My concern is in the ministry the church leaders, that use their role as a powerful leader to have a voice in this such as Gregg Kirksey.<br />In all reality these persons whom what to help and write letter to the judge for leniency, for a child molester are a danger to our society. <br />Quoting Kirksey: The writers speak of times when Pierce ministered to their dying relatives, sang at their weddings and planned their loved ones' funerals. A pastor at a large Little Rock congregation, after acknowledging that Pierce's crimes were “sick, twisted and perverted,” asked that Pierce receive probation, or ― in the event he was sent to jail ― be allowed to serve his sentence at a minimum security prison or a treatment facility for sex offenders. <br /><br />Can you see the danger in this thinking? Is Kirksey going to have Pierce join The Church of Rock Creek when he out in 2012? Because during molesting children he sang at wedding and ministered to dying relatives, my concern is if you believe in what God’s word says and that we live by faith and not by sight, how can you not see that some one may talk the talk but not walk the walk, DP actions show who guided his life and for years. And just because he was standing and sing near you during are happy time or a hard time in your life can not grant him leniency…Does not the word of God say we known by our fruits (Faith in Fact) a wolf in sheep’s clothing, you would be better of with a mill stone around your neck and throw in to the sea then to harm a child!<br />God’s word is very clear and is a minister to teach us and lead us to walk in faith?help or childrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17078741059912190067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-89417805229710897252009-06-18T23:37:04.379-05:002009-06-18T23:37:04.379-05:00They also want us to believe that the Holy Spirit ...They also want us to believe that the Holy Spirit can dwell in a 'spiritual leader' while he rapes a kid. Just a lapse. Just some backsliding.<br /><br />They could not be more wrong.Lydiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17367390474045060624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-76254547531168665512009-06-18T23:35:20.477-05:002009-06-18T23:35:20.477-05:00Ah Christa, Ken and Slick are representative of wh...Ah Christa, Ken and Slick are representative of what is in our churches. They are turning this into a poltical debate. And a contest of whose sins are worse to justify the wicked.<br /><br />They argue: these sexual predators are just no different than David and look at what God said about him! They call heinous sin a lapse of judgement.<br /><br />This is such a twisting of scriptural truth that I quake in my boots for folks like this. They are mocking God and His coming Justice for wickedness. <br /><br />But this is representative of what is being taught in our churches. This cheap grace is reserved for leaders. Has anyone else noticed that?Lydiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17367390474045060624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-87485373223275462842009-06-18T16:35:25.488-05:002009-06-18T16:35:25.488-05:00Good response,Thy Peace! The truth is very hard fo...Good response,Thy Peace! The truth is very hard for most people.<br /><br />I think one of the things that gets to me is like Phyliss, it feels like people haven't changed much since our childhoods.Children deserve so much more!!gmommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11713588262748876624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-31704948969296273312009-06-18T15:54:11.873-05:002009-06-18T15:54:11.873-05:00Slick reminds me of the mindset of all the Baptist...Slick reminds me of the mindset of all the Baptists I grew up with in OK in the 60's -- head in the sand -- totally out of touch with reality.<br /><br />THY PEACE (9:32 comment) -- I agree with every word you said.Phyllis Gregorynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-63649984322320248612009-06-18T15:38:25.153-05:002009-06-18T15:38:25.153-05:00gmommy, I am also like you. I am always afraid, if...gmommy, I am also like you. I am always afraid, if I truly speak my mind, I will say something truly rash. So I tend to say little. I did leave a follow up comment, but I have no desire to rebut Slick's comments, for I feel he/she does not wish to face The Truth.Rameshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09728392311602332613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-12098607780759555302009-06-18T14:33:39.025-05:002009-06-18T14:33:39.025-05:00"People who care ought to be encouraging pote..."People who care ought to be encouraging potential victims of forced sex to avoid situations where such things could occur; to be on the lookout for warning signs in encounters with staff members; and to run to the LAW if something untoward happens. Present proof to law enforcement agencies that a crime has been committed and then have it prosecuted in court."<br /><br />WARNING TO PARENTS EVERYWHERE!!!!<br />DO NOT BRING YOUR KIDS OR TEENAGERS TO CHURCH!!!!!!! DANGER!!<br /><br />My observation is that Christa The Whiney wants to chop off the heads of anyone who has been accused, whether or not there is an admission or proof of guilt. <br /><br />And since I would like to chop off more than their heads I will have to calm down before I respond to this JERK!<br />Please...John the minister or Junk or another man with a heart and brain respond to this idiot!<br />(taking another beta blocker before I explode!)gmommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11713588262748876624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-85452579540907718742009-06-18T11:13:43.079-05:002009-06-18T11:13:43.079-05:00Have you followed the comment stream on the Associ...Have you followed the comment stream on the <a href="http://www.abpnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4142&Itemid=53." rel="nofollow">Associated Baptist Press article</a>? It's up to 68 comments. "Slick," who prompted my prior posting about "Harsh words," has just left a new comment. And I gotta tell you, I think Jeri got it exactly right when <a href="http://stopbaptistpredators.blogspot.com/2009/06/harsh-words-make-my-point.html?showComment=1245105009678#c2419329715729244309" rel="nofollow">she said</a> "The very best advertising of the corruption in conservative Baptist churches are the words of Baptist preachers."Christa Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04560409585720043015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-25838920819546083592009-06-18T09:31:28.745-05:002009-06-18T09:31:28.745-05:00Anon. 6/17 -- you really think they care for their...Anon. 6/17 -- you really think they care for their own? How many times do CHURCH parents believe the ones in authority over their own children. You are right about --CHILDREN KNOW THAT NO ONE WILL BELIEVE THEM. Why do you think there are so many screwed-up, church-hating, angry, bitter adults who grew up from cradle roll on up in the local First Baptist Church. AND, "what the pagans must think about these 'Christians' in Benton?" PLEASE! Who do you consider to be pagan -- the unchurched, the ones who don't believe just like you do, the ones who have not walked the aisle, the ones who commit all the "SINS" you don't commit? PLEASE! I still believe most of the CHRISTIANS don't even go to church -- they can't because it is not safe!Phyllis Gregorynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-14249927099164835442009-06-18T06:58:50.903-05:002009-06-18T06:58:50.903-05:00Christa, you are my hero. What an excellent capsul...Christa, you are my hero. What an excellent capsulization and analysis of this horrible, depraved situation and these depraved church leaders. I am so sorry that so much harm has been done to the innocent.Jerihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14234147722462126392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-53910149912051215892009-06-18T04:13:04.960-05:002009-06-18T04:13:04.960-05:00I can't sleep and came here.
"Most out o...I can't sleep and came here.<br /><br />"Most out of the family child abuse is caused by uninformed children. They need to know what is appropriate and what is not." (4/25/09 7:55)<br /><br />One of my mentors whose daughter was molested by the pastor's son was sued for being a bad mother after suing the church for allowing the son continued access to small girls. <br /><br />In a wonderful act of vindication, her daughter's case went to trial (tried by Bill Barton) and her daughter won 2,000,000.00. The mother later sued the church for libel and settled.<br /><br />Clearly juries DO NOT believe the parents are at fault for the actions of rapists. <br /><br />Here's a legal document on the case: http://www.publications.ojd.state.or.us/A120240.htmMichellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00446840901272705157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-46905659761320384352009-06-17T23:42:14.854-05:002009-06-17T23:42:14.854-05:00"Most out of the family child abuse is caused..."Most out of the family child abuse is caused by uninformed children. They need to know what is appropriate and what is not." (4/25/09 7:55)<br /><br />In response to that STUPID remark, I must break from my usual proper communication style with WTH!!!!!I mean, WHAT could that possibly mean??????<br />That so sounds like the STUPID remark some Memphis woman said on a local radio station when the story broke that Steve Gaines declared the sexual molestation of a child "under the blood" and no cause to inform authorities or fire the "minister of prayer"from BBC.<br />I will never forget hearing: <br />"IT ONLY HAPPENED ONCE".<br />My son was in the height of his rebellious stage then but he was speechless.Who thinks like that??? <br /><br />And just what IS "out of family" child abuse. Is it possible that this stupid person thinks that "in the family" child abuse is OK????<br /><br />"To those who have never met David Pierce you really should not judge. This man has helped many people during his 30 years of ministry"(4/25/09 8:05) <br /><br />Alrighty then!!!!<br />This man is likable!!...and we haven't met him! How dare us care about the victims!!<br />So where is it in the Bible that as long as you help some people...you can abuse vulnerable,innocent young people and totally screw up their view of God just so a perverted con artist can get his jollies????? <br />Whatplanet are we living on anyway!gmommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11713588262748876624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-27623569227605485442009-06-17T20:45:40.399-05:002009-06-17T20:45:40.399-05:00“I believe it’s important if a Christian brother a...“I believe it’s important if a Christian brother asks for forgiveness, we as Christians should accept that.” Greg White is also a member of the Benton City Council."<br /><br />No problem. But from behind bars for the rest of his life.Lydiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17367390474045060624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3874123597623259718.post-14179098426926480592009-06-17T20:41:11.061-05:002009-06-17T20:41:11.061-05:00It is barbarity. They care nothing for children un...It is barbarity. They care nothing for children unless it happens to their own.<br /><br />What people will to do protect what they 'think' is a church is incredible to me. We all know that victims, even children, instinctively know that no one will believe them. <br /><br />Can you imagine what the pagans must think about these 'Christians' in Benton?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com